Richard Allen Interrogated: The First Time the Public Sees Him Speak PART 2
You Got One Piece of Evidence I Can’t Explain
The public is finally hearing the voice of Richard Allen—the man convicted of murdering Abby Williams and Libby German—for the first time, and what he says is as chilling as it is revealing. Newly released videos from YouTuber Tom Webster expose a window into Allen’s world just before and just after his arrest. What starts as firm denial slowly spirals into something a whole lot darker.
Allen, sentenced to 130 years in December for the 2017 murders of 13-year-old Abby and 14-year-old Libby, managed to fly under the radar for over five years. Then, on October 26, 2022, he was arrested. But two weeks before that, on October 13, investigators brought him in for questioning. And that interrogation, which is now public, begins with Allen trying to stay cool under pressure. He admits he was on the Monon High Bridge the same day the girls vanished. Not a great start. But when pushed further, he flat-out denies any involvement.
The cops didn’t hold back either. At one point, Carroll County Prosecutor’s Office Investigator Steve Mullin throws out a brutal accusation: Either Allen did this to the girls himself, or he helped someone else do it. That’s when Allen pushes back. Hard.
“Good luck finding anything that points in that direction,” he says. “You’re not going to make me believe it’s me.”
In hindsight, it’s a strange thing to say. He doesn’t say “I didn’t do it” with confidence. Instead, it’s “you’re not going to make me believe it’s me.” Like he’s arguing with his own reflection.
By the time we get to the second video—recorded the day of his arrest—the tone changes. Investigators have an unspent bullet found at the crime scene, and it matches a gun owned by Allen. He’s still in denial, but now, it sounds desperate.
“There is no way that evidence is going to show that I did this,” Allen insists.
But the police aren’t backing down either. ISP Investigator Jerry Holeman is blunt: “It’s right f—ing here, Rick.”
Allen’s response? “You got one piece of evidence I can’t explain.”
And Holeman hits back with: “I got multiple pieces. Multiple. I’m not showing you my whole f—ing hand here.”
It’s a poker game with two people holding very different cards. And it becomes clear Allen knows he’s losing.
Then come the prison phone calls. Eight of them, between November 2022 and June 2023, shared publicly for the first time. In those calls, Allen talks to his wife and his mother, and that’s where things start unraveling.
These aren’t emotional breakdowns or cryptic metaphors—these are confessions. Clear, damning, and hard to walk back. They were played during the trial, but the public never got to hear them until now.
Still, Allen’s legal team claims those confessions weren’t given voluntarily. Maybe it was the stress, the isolation, the realization that there’s no way out. Maybe it was all three. But that’s the story they’re sticking to.
In March, Allen’s attorneys filed a notice of appeal. They’re trying to undo what the jury decided—that Allen is the man who took two young girls’ lives on a cold February day in Delphi.
But with videos of him talking before the arrest, and recordings of him admitting guilt afterward, it’s going to be a tough mountain to climb.
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